Still Tired After Treating Epstein Barr Virus? Here's Why with Evan H. Hirsch, MD

Still Tired After Treating Epstein Barr Virus? Here's Why with Evan H. Hirsch, MD

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Hey there, welcome back to the EnergyMD Podcast where we help you resolve your long COVID and chronic fatigue syndrome naturally so that you can get back to living your best life. today I'd like to talk about if you have Epstein-Barr virus and if you've treated Epstein-Barr virus and you still aren't better, why that's the case. So typically if you have

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chronic fatigue, chronic fatigue syndrome, long COVID, you're just not feeling well, you go to see your doctor. This is one of the things that is uh in the literature that oftentimes conventional practitioners, naturopaths, functional medicine docs, integrative docs will go first. And they're look to see whether or not you have Epstein-Barr virus and they're gonna do a serology test. And so they're gonna look and see whether or not you have uh a response from the immune system to the Epstein-Barr virus.

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to show that the Epstein-Barr virus is in fact in your body. Now there's a couple of problems with this. So the serology test, looking at the immune system's reaction to the Epstein-Barr virus only works if the immune system is intact and functioning correctly. Unfortunately with long COVID and chronic fatigue syndrome, you have immune system dysfunction. And so the likelihood of having an appropriate reaction from the immune system to this particular infection in the body may not be accurate.

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Okay. So that's the challenge with the testing. And so you might have Epstein-Barr virus or cytomegalovirus or HHV6 or COVID and the spike protein, but it may not show up on testing if the immune system is inaccurate. And that goes for pretty much all the infection testing out there is that it's a look at the immune system's reaction to a particular infection, whether it is the uh Western blot test or the ELISA with uh Lyme disease.

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whether it's uh a test for bacteria like mycoplasma, they're all looking at the immune system's reaction. So the reality is that the test may be inaccurate, okay? Which is why in our program, we just treat you for all of these things to make sure that we leave no stone unturned. And it doesn't cost you any more money or any more time because you're actually, you're not paying for the laboratory test because we're just going to treat you.

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We're gonna make sure we work through a process and using herbs where we're doing double and triple duty So that's an aside, but what happens if you have a positive test? the serology test comes back as positive for the different markers for Epstein-Barr virus and Your provider decides to treat you for it. Maybe they give you a prescription like valcyclovir or maybe they give you a an uh herb or a nutraceutical like lysine or maybe they're using high dose vitamin C

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or IVs or different herbal treatments. And so you go through a process of taking these for a month, two months, three months. Maybe you'll notice a difference. Maybe you'll have a Herxheimer or die off reaction as you're killing these infections where you actually feel worse. And hopefully they're able to help you navigate through that process. But then you get to the other side. They repeat the laboratory testing. Maybe it's, maybe it shows that you no longer have Epstein-Barr. Maybe you still do.

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and they want to do another round and they think that you're going to have more success at this time. And I can tell you after doing this for a decade that the reason why you're not going to have success doing this when you're treating Epstein-Barr is because in order to get rid of infections, you have to have a somewhat intact immune system in order to have a somewhat intact immune system. You have to make sure that there's not a significant amount of toxins in the body.

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So that means heavy metals, chemicals, molds, and then also other infections potentially that are causing immune system dysfunction. And then if you have nervous system dysfunction from trauma, from these toxicities and infections in the body, from having negative thinking, all of that can also negatively affect the immune system's function. And then consequently, you cannot...

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you're not going to be able to get rid of the Epstein-Barr virus. So it really is a combination. This is why we address the toxic five, which as you've heard me speak before is the heavy metals, chemicals, molds, infections, and nervous system dysfunction that really is at the root of long COVID and chronic fatigue syndrome. And so that's why we treat all of them at the same time. You know, we introduce one thing at a time, going through a process of making sure that, know, we're addressing all the causes that you have, all the

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causes that you could potentially have, but we have to do it in a way that you can tolerate, that you can, we have to help you detoxify at a rate that you can tolerate. So very important to kind of move through this process and free up the immune system, take the toxins, the infect, because right now the immune system in your body is going after all of the toxic five.

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You know, it sees that there's heavy metals in your thyroid. So it starts going after the thyroid. get autoimmunity to thyroid, right? And then it's distracted. cannot help you get rid of the Epstein-Barr virus. Okay. So really important to make sure that when you are going through this process, that you're addressing the toxic five and you're addressing them all at the same time so that you can get rid of the infection. So some other things too. So the infections are also bound.

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to the heavy metals, chemicals, and molds. Okay, as fodder, as part of what I call this toxic matrix, which are existing in different tissues in the body. And when you start removing one of these things, let's say heavy metals, it's gonna break apart this toxic matrix and then the chemicals, the molds, the infections are going to be released, which is why it's really important to also have coverage for those things too. And like I said, we introduce one thing at a time so we can see how you're reacting to it.

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But over the course of a couple of months, then you are, you have all of these on board so that when you start to go after one thing and it releases the others that you have the coverage that you need in order to not feel worse while you're going through this process. And then we go through the die off dance as we're killing things, as we're removing them out of the body. And you can see my previous video on that, but basically we want to make sure that

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Once again, the rate at which we're removing the toxins and infections out of the body is a rate that you can tolerate so that you don't feel worse. You don't have more stress on the body. doesn't compromise your adrenals and your mitochondria, et cetera. Okay. So hope that was helpful. And so the way that we do this is we take people through a four step process. The first step is to figure out the causes that you have besides the toxic vibe that we're going to address. And this is a combination of deficiencies and toxicities.

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Deficiencies can be things like adrenals and thyroid and sex hormones and mitochondria, which makes 70 to 90 % of our energy lifestyle habits, vitamins, minerals mindset. Those are all deficiencies. And then the other toxicities besides the heavy metals, the chemicals, the molds, the infections, and the nervous system dysfunction would also include electromagnetic frequencies. would include structural issues. If you've had concussions or traumatic brain injuries.

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And it would include things like hypercoagulations or micro clots. Okay. So we'll want to determine that in step one. And then in step two, we want to start by replacing the deficiencies. So you might be saying, but Evan, you talk about the toxic five. And I say, absolutely. We need to address the toxic five, but that happens in step four. Okay. But we have to set up the stage for success. We have to make you more resilient. We have to decrease your inflammation. We have to, um,

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Yeah, we have to set the stage correctly and by replacing the deficiencies. And so we do that. We spend about a month or two doing that. And then we open up the exit pathways with herbs, the liver, the kidney, the lymph, the neural lymph, the gallbladder, the intestines. And that takes about a month or two, just once again, adding in one supplement at a time, seeing how you're reacting, making sure that you're tolerating everything as we go. And you have me in your back pocket. You know, uh, we guarantee a response to any question that people have in our program in two business days. Okay.

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Um, so that's step three. And so that takes you into the program three or four months, and then it's time to start introducing things for the, for step four and removing the toxic five. And then over the next, um, four months or so you're introducing the step four products and addressing the toxic five. And then at that point, you're eight months into the program, nine months into the program. And that's really where the magic happens. When you have a.

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when you have removed an appreciable amount, a significant amount of the toxic five by doing the nervous system retraining and the mindset work by removing the heavy metals and the chemicals and the molds and the infections. When you have done that, that is really when the light starts coming back on and the inflammation decreases in the body and the mitochondria can kick on and start producing energy. And that's at around month, nine, month 10. And that's when people start to notice significant improvements in their energy.

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I would say about 50 % of people after step two and replacing the deficiencies experience a little bit of improvement in their energy, maybe from a three out of 10 to a four out of 10 or four out of 10 to a five out of 10. But the most significant success really starts after month nine. So, you know, that is challenging sometimes for people to hear. They're like, I want to get, get quick fix as soon as possible. Right. But that's really just not how this situation works. You didn't get here overnight.

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Even if you got long COVID last year, your body has been struggling with the other toxic five for the last several decades. Right. And so to get rid of this, you know, we tell people it takes at least 12 months and generally people are 60 to a hundred percent better at 12 months, but it might take you 18 and might take you 24. And we're here for you for as long as it takes, but you're moving through this process and you're introducing these supplements.

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And you're increasing by a drop at a time for those that are, that are tinctures mainly in step four. So we can have really good control where you're detoxifying even just by taking one drop. Okay. We want to get you up to more than that, but just know that you're, you're, it's just about the total mass effect and getting rid of the total body burden. And that's really when the light comes on is when you've removed that appreciably and the body's like, thank goodness. Now I no longer have this weight. I no longer have this monkey on my back.

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I no longer have this total body burden and now I can start to function better. Things can start to come back online. Okay. So that's really such an important part of this process and success really comes from working through a science backed and clinically proven process like ours. One that has lots of testimonials. You know, if you're looking for a provider, you want to make sure that they've got lots of testimonials. Don't take their word for it.

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Don't take my word for it. Go see the hundred people on our testimonial page who've had success with our program, right? You want to make sure that that is, that is what you're looking at. You want to make sure that what they're doing is science back. You want to make sure that they're accessible, not somebody that you're going to see every three months. You want to make sure that you have them in your back pocket so that you can ask a question. And so what we do and the way that I've worked it, you know, so that we used to have a very long waiting list and I kind of modified things a little bit.

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so that we could help more people get better faster. And so when you join our program, you go ahead and you fill out a form and I look at that form and then I provide you with a plan over the next 12 months, knowing that you're probably going to pivot about 30 to 50 times. And that's where you have us in your back pocket, where we answer questions Mondays, Wednesdays and Friday to guarantee that response so that we can support you. And you just have to communicate with us. You get one-on-ones in the program. You get group calls.

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You get all the support that you need. You get a curriculum that you're working through. So, and we do this step by step so that you're not overwhelmed and you have easy access and recording tool so much of this so that if you have brain fog, you know, much like you can do with this video. I know I'm from Jersey and I'm talking fast sometimes, but you can slow things down and you can make sure that you're going at a rate that you can tolerate because the only people who don't get better are those who don't implement.

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So you want to make sure that, you know, when I talk about the recipe for success is that you're addressing all the causes that you have, you're using treatments that work, and then you've got the hand holding for all those steps along the way. And this is the way to get transformation. know, transformation doesn't come from more information. I appreciate that you're watching this video, but spending your time watching YouTube, listening to podcasts and doing research does not get your results.

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results come from following a proven process that has worked for others because there's no reason why it wouldn't work for you. And that's really that process is figuring out the causes that you have, addressing all the causes, especially the toxic five. Even if your labs don't show that you have all the toxic five, still address the toxic five because what I mentioned about the toxic matrix before, and then using treatments that actually work, that are safe, that are going to be able to get you to the finish line.

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And then having the support that you need along the way with people who've actually been through it. had chronic fatigue and, and my team, there's different members of my team. My wife had chronic fatigue and Mickey, our health coach has had chronic fatigue. Laurie's had chronic fatigue. So all of us have kind of had it and gotten over it and are, um, and are able to support you from that space. So not only do we have the knowledge, but we've also been through it so we can have that empathy and that compassion.

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We understand what you're going through and we know that it sucks. But what you have to do is you just have to take that next step and you have to realize that that journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step and it is that next step and it's making that commitment. And the only people who don't get better are those who don't implement in our program. And so, you know, that's why I'm so confident. And that's why we have so many testimonials is because those, as long as you implement, and that just means

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spending an hour a day doing the mindset work, doing the nervous system retraining and taking the supplements that there's no reason why you won't be successful. And you do have to reach out when you feel worse or you have a question because I'm not at home with you. So I don't know what's going on for you. And, but when you do that, that's when we can really be in relationship. And that's when you can, we can uh have a wonderful coaching relationship and we can get you to the finish line. So hope that was helpful for you.

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If you got any questions, please drop them below. If you learned something, give this a thumbs up, a like, a subscribe, share it with somebody you love or you know who are struggling. And if you're interested in seeing if we're a good fit to work together, you can get on a free call with me. This is a 45 to 60 minute call. We'll all go through a process to see whether I can help you. I'll ask you some questions. We'll have you fill out a form. And then if I feel like I can help you, we can go into

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the program, how it's structured and what the investment is. Now this is really just for serious people. And so if you are, if you're not going to implement, please do not join this um call and do not apply for a call because em it's not gonna be a good fit, really. Okay, so take care and I will see you in the next episode. Thanks so much for paying attention.