Unleash Your Energy by Living Your Life Fully Lived with Jaymin Patel

Episode 70:

Unleash Your Energy by Living Your Life Fully Lived with Jaymin Patel, MBA & Evan H.

Hirsch, MD

Evan H. Hirsch, MD 00:07

Hey everybody, welcome back to the energy MD podcast. We're on a mission to help a

million people resolve their chronic fatigue and increase their energy so they can have

more fun and more success in every aspect of their lives. And as you know, we're always

looking at Mind Body Spirit emotions. And so today we're going to be talking a lot about

mind and spirit with my good friend Jaymin Patel. So let's learn a little bit about him

today. So, Jaymin and J. Patel is a growth coach and soul mentor for high achievers. His

mission is to help soul aligned leaders unlock their greatest achievement potential

experience, the highest levels of freedom and truth and ease fully expand into even

more abundance and health, wealth and love. Overcoming the oh so common hurdles

that hold most people back from living their greatest life and doing their greatest work.

In addition to being a TEDx speaker, who's delivered over 500 paid talks, and being an

author of eight books. Jamin is a highly sought after heart driven no fluff, intuitive

coach, who has been hired by powerful leaders in the spiritual and transformational

communities, as well as top leaders of corporations around the world, like Kraft,

Unilever, JP Morgan, Chase, and Citibank.

Evan H. Hirsch, MD 01:25

He has been invited to speak at prestigious stages like Harvard Business Business

School, and has been called upon to consult for high level strategy programs for

national governments globally, most recently, Saudi Arabia. Most importantly, Jaymin is

a dad of two incredible kids and shares a beautiful conscious relationship with his wife

Arey, he and his family are currently living on the tropical island of Bali, where he hosts

private retreats for his clients. Jaymin thanks so much for joining me today.

Jaymin Patel, MBA 01:54

Dude, I'm so excited to be here.

Evan H. Hirsch, MD 01:58

Truly a blessing. So great to see you again. So we're gonna be talking about unleash

your energy by living your life fully lived. So let's get a little bit into your story. Don't want

to spend too much time on this. But it's always great to hear where people have come

from and how how you got to where you are now and and helping all the people you

help?

Jaymin Patel, MBA 02:19

Yeah, absolutely. So the short version of the story is ultimately, I grew up in a very loving

family, but decades ago, where my parents were doing their best. And in that situation, I

had a parent who was a narcissist and a parent who's an alcoholic. And so growing up, I

very much found that my measure of creating safety in that environment was

overachievement. And people pleasing. And that took me very far in life, I graduated

high school year early, got a full ride scholarship to university, worked at a fortune 500

company, got my MBA and some other degrees from a top university or to management,

consulting, and then did all this stuff, and ultimately realized, wow, this isn't fulfilling me,

you know, I, the house, the car, all this sort of stuff. And so it's like, it's kind of typical

journey. I think we hear a lot when we do a podcast. And from that point, I hadn't realized

that life was not about doing all these things that I was given to do, and was more about

being in this journey of expressing who I was. And for so long, I was trying to be what

my parents wanted, and what the people around me wanted and what my bosses

wanted. And I just hit this point where I was like, like, I can't do this anymore. And I

discovered Burning Man in my late 20s. And in that moment, I just realized, like, this was

a place where I could be me. And I had been so pulled back like this rubberband that is

so pulled back, that when I got to Burning Man, it was like, I can let go. And I could just

be me. And that experience of seven days, eight days in the desert of being fully me was

like, it was like a hit of a drug that I just couldn't stop having. And so my journey became

how can I make this my daily life? How can I do this every single day, and not have to fly

out to a desert with 60,000 people who are all safe to do this with but do it in everything

that I do and create a business around that create a relationship around it. You know,

being authentic in a relationship is one of the hardest things right? Because there's

vulnerability of not being loved, right, being a parent, right and do something wrong and

and going back and saying, Hey, I messed up. I'm sorry. I love you, right. All of these

things are ways to fully express ourselves. But we get caught up in that. And, and to me

a lot of my energy was wasted in this internal battle of not being able to express who I

was in the world. And once I cracked that code to me 12 years of getting coached by

with some of the best coaches on the planet, you know,

Jaymin Patel, MBA 05:00

Working with mainstream coaches, but also working with really agile of the world weird,

you know things, everything from plant medicine, to sexual shamanism to Tantra to a

variety of different schools of thought that helped me link together different pieces that

allowed me to be fully me this is my mission in life now is to be able to shine as my true

authentic self, after decades of not doing that, and to also help others do the same

thing.

Evan H. Hirsch, MD 05:29

Such a beautiful transformation and such a gift to yourself such a gift to the world, and

something that I want for myself, and that I want for the world as well. So let's talk about

what it means to be fully lived.

Jaymin Patel, MBA 05:44

Yeah. So you know, the best way I can describe being fully lived, is if this moment when

you go on vacation, right, you had an amazing day of adventures, you've got this

restaurant for sunset, you're overlooking this beautiful view, and you're just like, fully

present and nothing else is happening. But that moment, right. And you're just like, in

gratitude and acceptance, and just fully there, that experience that most of us get on a

vacation and then returned back right to, to work to regular life to default world, which I

did for so many years, then we kind of lose that. But we can actually have that

enveloped in our every day. And it's not about being happy all the time. There are ways

to be I'm not I'm not happy all the time. But I'm probably more happier than the usual

person more often. Because I know life is gonna give me ups and downs. But I know

how to ride the ups and take the downs and build the momentum to come out the other

side so that I can move through it. So a lot of great coaches who are out there, they'll

teach things that are ultimately spiritual bypass, right, like Tony Robbins, Joe Dispenza,

doing great, amazing work. But they're kind of like change your state make a move and,

and they override the emotion. And what I have found in my journey is when you move

with the emotion, it automatically releases and with that emotion also releases a lot of

the programming or the trauma or old beliefs that we've had from the past. And the

more we can let those shadow aspects go, the more fully lived we can be to fully live is

around getting out of the fear or the avoidance of just being who we are.

Evan H. Hirsch, MD 07:29

Getting out of the fear of the avoidance of being just who we are. And that fear comes

from what

Jaymin Patel, MBA 07:38

I mean, it comes from our childhood comes from the first person we dated, it comes

from our teachers, it comes from social media, it comes from the government, right and

it even comes innocently I think a lot of people, you know, one of the number one things

that I do with my clients is I'm like stop doing shadow work. So I'm going into your past,

and looking at your childhood and like just living in all these old stories of what what

what happened. Because some of this trauma, it can even come from like, you know,

where a baby we want milk, Mama, they were crying mama comes into the room, we see

milk coming towards us, we get really excited and adorable rings will of course, Mom's

gonna go check it out real quick, because she doesn't want to show up with a baby on

the boob. So she turns around and goes out, immediately we create a story without even

knowing what is reality that we're not loved. Right, that something is more important.

And so therefore begins this sort of, you know, story creation, before we have the full

developed adult there to really make sense of what's happening. And they can be

something really as innocent as that to literally, you know, children who have grown up

with abuse, or worse, right. And so all of those things shape who we are. And then as

adults, I think at some point, we turn and look at them, we realize, Wow, I should look at

that. But to get to a life that's fully live, you've got to go beyond that. Right? So you've got

to actually, you know, does this thing where attention goes, energy flows. And so if all

your attention is on your past and your wounding and your stories and your limiting

beliefs, guess where all your energy in life is gonna flow there. Right? And this is where

people get stuck in their energy flow, because it all goes into the story of how they can't

have it all. They're too much. They're not enough. We all have these stories, every single

one of us. And then what do we do we numb out a little bit with, you know, social media

or porn or whatever. Because those feelings are so overwhelming. When we can be with

those feelings. Our energy can flow into what's happening right now. We're just fully

immersed in that moment. We walk in to a room and get squeals of delight and joy and

hugs with our family. Right? We're doing work that feels so amazing in terms of is on.

We're walking through and people are like, wow, like heads turn right like that we all have

inside of us innately, but the stories from our past kind of hinder us and trying to keep us

safe. They just haven't learned that we're an adult now. And we can let those go so that

our energy can flow into what's happening right now. And where we want to go, we can

start creating what we want to create in our lives.

Evan H. Hirsch, MD 10:16

And we're adults, and yet, it seems like most of the time, we're actually we're in an adult

body. But we're just these scared children with these stories.

Jaymin Patel, MBA 10:25

Exactly. There's like one clear thing I help people do. And that is to bring that mature

adult self online, right, because we're in adult bodies when we have a child psychologies,

because like, like, if you look at the world, name, an actual, like adult that, you know, like

an adult who acts like an adult, who knows how to handle things, who doesn't get

caught up in drama, who doesn't get pissy he doesn't get revenge. I mean, all of these

things are child psychology. And we have adult leaders all around the world, and every,

from politics, to media to you know, technology, doing stuff that's so childish, and

everything around us. And that's actually, that is what makes things popular on social

media. That's what makes a movie is that sort of behavior. So it's rewarded. So as

adults, we actually don't have a lot of incentive, or guidance or role models of what it's

like to actually be a full, mature adult. And so the work that I do is say, Okay, how do we

bring that person online? How does that part of you deal with all the stresses in your life,

all the relationships in your life, all the joys in your life, all the worries in your life? All

these beautiful layers of life that bring us this amazing tension that makes life life? How

does the adult you actually do that when you don't have models of it? And you are

taught that when you aren't rewarded for it? How do we bring that side of you out, and

I've created the instruction manual for that. And when that happens, guess what, guess

what automatically begins to happen. That shadow self, the old stories, they begin to

loosen their grip, because they're like, oh, shit, Evans got this, I don't need to hang

around. And then when those fears and avoidance patterns go away, we're just living our

life fully lived. Right. And it doesn't have to take 12 years, it doesn't have to take, you

know, this long journey. It's something that we can learn in a short amount of time. And

when you can, your energy can flow life can flow through you. And you're just in the

present moment connected to the world around you. So many people I know have

created amazing lives, but they feel disconnected. And when they feel disconnected, be

judged to disconnection. And their energy gets wrapped up in that story. And it's not

present with their partner present with their children present with whatever is going on.

It's wrapped up in the story of why am I not more connected? And that's, I like freeing

other people.

Evan H. Hirsch, MD 12:49

Beautiful. Yeah, it seems like there's this disparity between like adulting and being

responsible. And yeah, you were talking about, like Burning Man and the freedom to be

who you are, you know, oftentimes, we can't necessarily be all of who we are in the

context of adulting. Right. So is there there, can we

Jaymin Patel, MBA 13:09

And I would argue to say, we can be more of ourselves, because that is a real us is not

the learned behavior, from society, from parenting from our first partnerships from, you

know, social media, from government, like, it's not the learned behavior, the adult

behavior is the actual us the true behavior, it's me creating a boundary without getting

you defensive. Because I know how to create a boundary that's going to be honored. It's

me making a request from you that I know is going to get me what I want. Because I

know how to communicate our request in a way that will get me what I want, right?

Whereas what do we do? Instead, we threaten, right? We do Joel, we connive like, we try

to think of all these strategies, but those are not us. And they don't really work. And so

when you're living your life fully lived, you're not in the fear is like I can just say what I

want. And let that be, and I may not get it, or I may get it, right. And I can be with that

tension. In the same way I can make a request. And I can be really sure when the way

that I see that request, that I can speak to the party that's going to fulfill that or I can

create boundaries that will be really honored. And if they're not, then I have choices. So

it's looking at the stresses of life and realizing, wow, since we come into our mature

adult self, and do this, we're actually expressing more of who we are. And when we

express more of who we are we feel amazing and we actually get what we want. And

and like stress goes away. I remember one time I was dating four people at once.

Whereas in for relationships, and people were like, how are you doing that? I can't even

do one relationship. I'm there must be somebody jealousy. Do you know what the

overlap of those four relationships at once was six. When's long. And not one fight

occurred. Because I understood my partner's I understood their needs their boundaries

or requests, I checked in on them. I knew what you know what my capacity was, I

created space for my own self. And so even though there's all this overlapping a lot of

that up, there was so much clearer communication, there's so much ownership of the

experience. And there's so much presence that I had available to give to each partner,

because I had done all this work. And so when you're in relationship with one person,

you really have time to give them attention. It's like your energy is caught up in why am I

not more connected? Why am I not more driven? Why am I not more motivated? Why

am I not more turned on by life, and then judging that, and then being in that tension,

and that's where your energy is tied up. And it's not just because I'm like, you know,

whatever, it's like, anyone can manage this many relationships, or this many businesses,

or this many, whatever you want, right? It's key, each of us have this capability, but we

just got to unlock it. And when we do, we have access to so much energy to direct

towards whatever we want any creative endeavor that we desire, or relationship or

experience that we want to create, that's fully lived.

Evan H. Hirsch, MD 16:13

I love that clarity. You know, it sounds and this kind of comes into the energy piece and

the fatigue. It sounds exhausting, kind of carrying, I know for myself, you know, the a lot

of these negative patterns and a lot of the stories that I tell myself and, and the the

thinking thinking around things, instead of actually being can be really exhausting, can't

it?

Jaymin Patel, MBA 16:37

Yeah, absolutely. And I know, in your practice, you look at this with people, right? It's

almost like, you know, same thing with man, like, first thing is like, where are your

relationships? What's kind of integrity? What do you need to say that you're not saying

that's causing your fatigue, right, or that's causing your stress that's causing your

disconnection it's like, that's definitely a layer that we need to look at is like, literally,

once people come into integrity, I've had this happen with a client, where there's all these

kind of things are going on around him. And I'm like, we used to fix all these leaks that

are happening. And he started fixing all these leaks, which are all about money, right?

And then he just kind of organized on them communicate, it didn't have the money to do

anything, but just communicated like, Hey, here's the honest truth of what's going on.

And literally, within weeks, found this opportunity where he was making all this money,

he was able to actually restore integrity, right? It's like, it wasn't flowing to him. And he's

going further and further and further into the hole because he was in completely in an

ownership because he didn't know how to communicate, he's like, if I say anything,

there's gonna be a backlash. I'm like, No, here to say it this way. And he's like, I can say

that. Yeah, it's that easy. And then you say that and all the energy that's being held, all

opens up. And when you're in that energy, remember where attention goes, energy

flows. And so if your attention is on expanding, and growing, and you have enough

capacity for that, all the energy is going to go into your expansion in your growth, right.

And so if that's something that's important, then open up your capacities to go and

receive the energy there and let it flow there. That's really what it comes down to is

organizing all these things in our life that allow us to feel fully expressed and fully seen,

so we can live a life that's fully lived.

Evan H. Hirsch, MD 18:18

Sounds like everybody needs this.

Jaymin Patel, MBA 18:21

I think so. I mean, to me, it's the most exciting thing on the planet, right? Like that I lived

growing up, I mean, for decades, you know, like, I didn't lose my virginity test. 25

Because I thought that as a good Hindu boy, like, that was not okay for me to do. And

even though my body my being was expressing, you know, hormones, and all this as a

teenager and in college, and, you know, it's like, I prohibited myself, I kept the energy

stuck, because I didn't, I felt I had a story that I couldn't be that person, I had to be this

other person. I mean, I, you know, and I've lost decades of my life not being me. And

once I got that taste of being me, I was like, nothing else is gonna happen. I'm gonna

figure out how, like, how to do this all of the time. And you know, that journey, I'll share it

here, this journey of getting coached by some of the most amazing coaches on the

planet and attending these retreats and these ceremonies and all this sort of stuff. Like

over 350,000 US dollars to like, do this, like this is the number one thing that I have spent

money on, invested time into because I in the last 10 years, I haven't worked, I've met

work with a minimum of two coaches at all times, constantly pushing my edge in

different ways and finding the next person that I can invest in to go learn because I

know I don't know everything, and I know the answers are not in one place. And so you

gotta go look everywhere and put those together into one place and, and find the avenue

to go get what you want and like what I wanted Listen, to be able to shine is my true

authentic self, you know, and in relationships and parenting and sexuality, just those are

challenging, right? Like, like you do that you can do that for a lifetime, then you have

business friendships, you know, personal expression, like the decision to go to the gym

or not. I mean, everything is a function of expressing who we are, and the stories holding

us back from what we actually want.

Evan H. Hirsch, MD 20:25

Yeah, where are you investing your time, your money, your energy? Yeah, and there's a lot

of these things that you're talking about, that people don't even think about, or think

about as a possibility of what have something that they can invest in, right, we've got all

these aspects that are really common for the average person that they're focused on,

like work, and maybe their relationship with their partner, or maybe their relationship

with their kid. But they're not looking at necessarily the relationship with themselves,

and then not realizing that, actually, you can go, you can make different kinds of

investments and get different kinds of returns on all these different aspects of your life.

It's not just about going to the annual conference for business every year.

Jaymin Patel, MBA 21:11

Yeah, slowly. And this because we don't have all these role models, right? are examples,

and we're not rewarded for that. Right? So then there's also like, what are we used to,

we're used to, like, potentially having a job, it's kind of fine, not totally bad, but we can

complain about it, the barbecue on the weekend, right. And then we have, you know, the

relationship drama that we go talk to our friends about, and then they help us out. And

we feel connected, like, this is what I thought life was, I thought my friends were there

for me to complain, and for them to help me and then then complain to me to help them

and then we feel really closely bonded. And then that's what our relationships were for

secrete fodder for friendships to be strong. And, you know, like, I've had his whole idea

of what life was, you know, and, and I think, you know, like, for example, like people who

come work with me, you know, they've, they've worked with a specialist, he's like, Oh, no,

no, I have a relationship issue. Let me go hide the relationship coach, right. And I think

most your coaches are great, my wife is an amazing relationship coach. So like, go do

that. Or they'll be like, oh, I need to work with a health coach, you know, for diet or

exercise, or I want to work on a sexuality coach or a parenting coach, like, they'll do all

these specialists. And I think that's great. But then what happens is they amass all the

pieces to the puzzle, or most of them, but they don't know how to orchestrate them

internally, to actually put it to use. So they're like, you know, people are like, I've done all

this work. I'm not a newbie, I'm not lost, I've invested into coaching, I've done this work.

And yet, I still feel desperate, disconnected, something doesn't feel right, I know, I want

something, I don't know what it is, I want to go somewhere, I don't know where I want to

go. And it can't put their finger on it. Right. And that's the internal stuff that I think is the

journey of, of kind of what I do is like, it's looking at all those pieces and saying, let's just

put this together and link all the chords together in a way that like, lets the machinery

operate, that lets you actually put the mature self online in all areas, and reduce the hole

that the shadow program has on you, so that you can express yourself, I think there's

like this discombobulation of like I'm holding all the ingredients to the pie. And I like

coming to the kitchen, let's open the recipe book, let's put it all together, pop it in the

oven for a few months. And guess what's gonna happen on the other side, you're going

to feel differently, right. And I think that's really the idea that people don't realize that

there's a thing like this is in my goal, my little goal is to be the first ever adult that people

meet, like fully functional. I want to be the most adult person in adult body that anyone

has ever met. And I want to be like that first adult of like, this guy just acts differently. He

does things completely differently. And it makes so much sense. What are those things I

want to do that, like that's who I want to be, you know, and that's, that's who I want my

clients to be in the world like I want, we all need to show others what's possible. By

being our full selves, we create a permission field for others to do the same. it ripples

out into our children into our partners into our community. Like we need these models,

these Paragons, these examples of what's possible. And the more of these people are

walking around owning their full adult self and not engaging on this child behavior that

keeps our energy stuck. The more people will see that and say, Wow, I can do that. It's

like, yeah, you can do that too. Right? And that's how we create this, like, you know,

ripple effect. You know, this wave that goes all the way around the world of like, got it.

My goal is not to be like the celebrity with a house and five cars, but to be this fully

expressed individual, because that's really what my soul is craving and I'm going to

allow myself to do that. And I've had so many people in my life who've been model that

for me and been like, wow, I can do that as a parent, I can do that sexually. I can do that

as a business owner, that feels alive. I want to do that. That's where we tap into this

energy, where we just feel like we're connected to the world around us and everyone in

it.

Evan H. Hirsch, MD 25:19

So we'll say, yeah. So how do you work with people? one on ones groups? What's it look

like?

Jaymin Patel, MBA 25:26

Yeah, so it's funny, we have this joke that I'm like the six month life coach. So I'm not

interested in working with people for a very, very long time. Like, that's not like who I am,

I'm kind of like, let's come in, let's put the recipe out. Like we have all the pieces inside

you, let's organize them and go. So yeah, there's this kind of joke, or thing that's kind of

forming around like me being like the six month life coach. So I work with people one to

ones. If we work one to one, usually, it takes me less than six months to organize them.

But I have a six month group program that I do that has a lot of like one to one support,

and all this sort of stuff, I just called fully lived. That's the name of my program, because

that's the goal of my life and what I want for everyone. And so yeah, we have two

openings, one April, one in October, close six month program, amazing people from all

around the world. And the people who don't want to kind of do it in a group, I think it's a

lot of power to the group, in fact, because every, like almost every call somebody cries,

you know, and people come, they're like, I'm not gonna cry, and then they cry, you know,

or they get angry, or they emote all this stuff. And they're like, man, like as, as someone

who's seen as a leader, or someone as a seen as you know, person who knows a lot, I

can go be kind of messy in my life like and so this is a place where people can just

come and be who they are. And through their tears through their fears, we love them

more. Right. And I think most people are afraid that if they show their tears and fears to

maybe anyone with a partner, perhaps, or even sometimes even to their partner, that

they're going to be rejected. And when they get loved even harder, then they take that out

of the container, and they put in the rest of their lives. So I have a series of invitations

that I give over a six month period, and the video contents and some kind of things to

expand the mind. But pretty much, you know, we have so far it's been three years, we

have 100% success rate with everyone who leaves the program in six months being like,

oh my god, like I kind of knew this was possible, but I didn't know. Like, I feel it now, like,

this is amazing. I'm living my life differently. You know. And so we have an amazing

group of alums, you know, all around the world who have been, you know, going on

doing cool things, publishing books, you know, doing different parenting works. I mean,

it's really, really cool. So the group program is six months. I can't say we guarantee

success, but we have 100% success rate. So that tells me a lot. I you know, for me, I

really do feel like it and in the one to ones, yeah, it's guaranteed there's, I want to be

really, really challenged. You know, I really want to see people at their edge. And my

passion is to walk with people at their edge, even if it's my edge. And when we do that

together. It's inevitable, like we meet at a cadence that just takes us to a new place

where you're not different. You don't leave who you are, you expand who you are. So

you're, you're the you you are, but you're expanded to hold more, you can receive more,

you can experience more, connect more, that's really the outcome.

Evan H. Hirsch, MD 28:30

Do you have a free gift for our audience? Can you tell them a little bit about it?

Jaymin Patel, MBA 28:34

Yeah, so I have a free gift for anyone who wants to just at least get started on this path, I

guess, getting a little taste of what I'm talking about here. So I have these five life hacks

that I feel every person should know. Like, just how to create more flexibility in your

calendar, how to like, yeah, get more time ultimately, what to do when you're feeling

overwhelmed. Different ways to balance life partnership, parenting, you know, whatever

you have going on. And like when it feels just too crazy, like what to do. So I just use five

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this out. And it's literally like 20 minutes. And so in 20 minutes, you can get five quick life

hacks, see if you put them to use and see how your life opens up. Just like see how your

life opens up after 20 minutes of listening to this. And of course people are welcome to

follow me on social media. I put a lot I'm really proud of the content I put out and people

whenever I see them, if I haven't seen them in a while they're like, love your posts on

social media. They're always so amazing. Or I read your emails, you know, like so people

really love it. I feel really proud of it. I put a lot of effort into it. And so people you can

find me and get into the content as well. There's lots of Have inspiring content that I

follow.

Evan H. Hirsch, MD 30:02

And we'll drop the links below.

Jaymin Patel, MBA 30:05

Yeah, drop all the links, if anyone's hearing this and you're feeling this kind of energy, but

also little fear. I love it. Like if this podcast puts a little fear in you of like, oh my gosh, I'm

getting kind of called out and I don't know if I can do that. Or if it's for me, go down the

rabbit hole I you know, like, for you, you can do that that little fear is breathed with it.

Fear is excitement without the breath. Breathe into what you're feeling right now. Go

listen to the 20 Minute free gift. You'll rock your world. I promise your partners, your

children, your co workers will all be very happy that you started do you learn these things

and put them to use and then go down the rabbit hole like just go enjoy? Because some

of you who are hearing this are going to be like, okay, yeah, it's time for me to just like,

peed my head this way and see what else is available. I'm kind of sick of how things are.

And some of you who are listening you know that doing more of the same is not going

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gonna see stuff change.

Evan H. Hirsch, MD 31:13

Brilliant. Yeah, Jaymin and thanks so much for joining me today. So appreciate you

dropping your

Jaymin Patel, MBA 31:18

love these so much, man. I love everything that you do, and I can't wait to hopefully see

you in person, give you a hug. And and come back to the US in a few months.

Evan H. Hirsch, MD 31:29

Love you too, brother.

Jaymin Patel, MBA 31:31

All right, well, bye bro!