Increase Your Energy with Voltage

Increase Your Energy with Voltage

Evan H. Hirsch, MD 00:08

Hey everybody, welcome back to the energy MD podcast, where we help people with chronic fatigue, MECFS and long covid get their health back so that they can live the life that they deserve. And so oftentimes we're talking about all these different causes. One we haven't talked about yet, that I'm really excited about is voltage and electrons, and we're going to be doing it here with Dr Halderman. So let's learn a little bit about doctor Kelly. So she has a background in functional medicine, earning her medical degree or MD in 2007 and completing family practice medicine internship with the University of Minnesota in 2009 Doctor Haldeman also has a traditional naturopathic medical degree from KC NH. She holds certification in methyl genetics nutrition by the Nutri Genetic Research Institute. I'm having a little bit of hard time today, and certification from the American Functional Neurology Institute in functional neurology and neurofeedback. She's an active member of the American Academy of anti aging medicine, president and founder of the American Association of nutraceutical formulators, as well as a member of Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine and society of physician entrepreneurs. Dr Halderman has a doctorate in clinical nutrition. Is also board certified in clinical nutrition by the cncb and health coaching certification from the Institute for Integrative Nutrition. She has comprehensive experience in nutraceutical science and formulation, creating and educating on novel formulation for consumers, practitioners and professional associations such as the NFL Hall of Fame. As NFL Hall of Fame, former physician turned executive level biotech expert, she currently serves as wheels Chief Health Officer, a health conscious company that augments the most precious molecule on the planet water, giving it Health, promoting benefits beyond hydration. Dr Haldeman, thanks so much for joining me today.

Kelly Halderman DCN, CCN 02:08

Yes, thanks. Dr, Evan, I'm glad to be here.

Evan H. Hirsch, MD 02:12

So let's start with your your back story, because I think it's really interesting, and how you got into this work, sure.

Kelly Halderman DCN, CCN 02:20

So you read that really long bio. So everybody, everybody knows I'm an education junkie at this point. But what that bio doesn't entail is that I myself became very sick in around 2010 I started to have these very strange symptoms. And I was, it was in medical residency. I was going, I was doing, you know, it was very stressful. And I was living on basically Mountain Dew, doing call, you know, all that was delivering babies in the middle of the night, and I just came down with these very strange symptoms. And I was actually delivering a baby on on call, and trying to catch the baby, and I just got this giant migraine, scotoma out of nowhere. I couldn't see I had to grab the nurse, grab the baby, and I thought, What is going on here? And so I was evaluated. You know, when you are a doctor, you get to be first in line to to to be evaluated by amazing doctors. And they told me that I had multiple sclerosis and that I should just go home be with my children. I had two children at the time, and, you know, get my affairs in order. And I thought, are you kidding me? I spent $500,000 and, you know, have all these tools in my toolkit to be told that there's really not a whole lot that they can do. And I thought, No way. Like, I love medicine. I love practicing medicine. Love, you know, helping people. But when it came to myself, and I realized there were a lot of people like me that medicine just didn't have the answer. So I had to go and get a naturopathic medical degree. I had to learn things like detoxification and nutrition and how important it was. And I just slowly crawled myself out of that hole of chronic illness, and it was really due to Lyme infection. I live in Minnesota, I had a tick borne illness, and also mold, mold exposure, so I was like a Sears patient. I didn't have the language, I didn't have the education to define myself, but that chronic inflammatory response syndrome, that's what I had going on, and I was just so ill. And really one of the things that that I learned along the way, and that's what I want to talk about today, because it's so cool, and it's how you can recover your energy, right? We talk about energy in this podcast. This book's backwards, but what it says is healing is voltage. This is by Dr Jerry Tennant, MD, now Jerry Jerry Tennant is the founder of lasix surgery. So we've all heard of lasix before. He was an ophthalmologist who who really discovered this, and while he was experimenting on eyes and, you know, and trying to use those lasers, what he happened is he vaporized lasers and vaporized suits, viruses and bacteria, and ended up getting them an infection in his bone, brain, and he was bedridden. And they could not figure out what was wrong with him. And he, you know, in his in his time, just laying in bed trying to think, How do I fix myself, which I had those that time as well. He thought I, I trained in medicine, I learned biochemistry. I know how a cell works. A cell works by using voltage. He said, if I can figure out how one cell works, how to optimize one cell, I can optimize my whole entire body. And so he realized that our cells run on voltage. That's energy, right? And so we talk about grounding and earthing. We talk about go outside without your shoes on, get some voltage. It's really that's how your cells work. And you know, he talks about in the back of the book that you know, our cells are designed to work at minus 20 to minus 25 millivolts. And if I hit my my thumb with a hammer, that the voltage in my thumb will actually go to minus 50. Because you need that voltage at those extra electrons. You need those to heal. And so what happens with people with chronic disease is that their voltage is like, more like minus 10. They don't have the electrons, and they can't heal. And so, you know, I'm sure you've had on your podcast, other people practitioners talking about therapies, and what they're referring to, such as pulsed electronic magnetic field therapy. What that is is electrons. It's voltage. We eat food so we can get the electrons. And so that kind of really fast forwards me to my my, my desire to to team up with a company that optimizes the most precious molecule in the whole world. We all need water. This hydration is absolutely key to every function in our body, detoxification, everything. But really what, what the technology does is it puts in electrons. And so, you know, you're looking at a different therapy, outside of all these expensive, you know, PMFs and all that. And, of course, again, you can, you can use grounding. But really, that's what I want to talk about today. I know water can get really boring, but we can, we can use technology. That's why I'm in biotech. I wanted to really help, help bring people the healing that I desperately I've been so sick. I understand what it's like to have no energy. I understand what it's like to just wake up and feel like you haven't even slept. And so again, we can kind of go into the hydration and how that's important, and we can go into the science behind that, but that is my story.

Evan H. Hirsch, MD 07:35

Wow. Well, I'm so glad you made it through, and you're here today to help us work through this. So, yeah, let's talk about, let's talk about hydration.

Kelly Halderman DCN, CCN 07:45

Yeah, so two thirds of our body consists of water. Of course, we've always heard that, and we've always heard drink your your eight glasses of water. But you know, really, when you look at the importance of it in selecting the water, I mean, we right now, we know our water is contaminated, which is a whole other podcast in of itself. So we really won't go there, but a lot of us, when we're let's say we're drinking tap and we don't tap water, and we don't really know or understand the the toxins in there we're drinking like dead water. And 99% of the molecules, all the molecules, in our body, are water. So so this is an important thing to pay attention to, the hydration functions, like when we're drinking water. Let's you know, just say, any kind of water includes structure and cushioning for your joints, for your brain, temperature regulation, lubrication, metabolism, digestion, removing waste from your body, and cardiovascular function. So it's just like from head to toe, everything that's going on in your body it requires, requires just hydration, of note, for for energy production. So as your cells get more and more dehydrated, the metabolism of those free fatty acids and amino acids or they they go to pyruvate or Acetyl Co A that decreases, and then so all of a sudden, your cells have to depend on glucose as the main as your main fuel source. And that's implicated in diabetes, and that I pulled right out of out of the research. So you're looking at your cells aren't able to produce the energy like they're supposed to when you are just dehydrated, in general, and then, so then, when your cells are shrinking, your ability for your insulin to stimulate the glucose uptake, because that's what insulin is for, you know, and you're eating and you're the glucose levels, the glucose is supposed to end up in your cell, your insulins like that opens up the door for the glucose, and that doesn't happen when when you're dehydrated. And so you're looking at insulin resistance. And how many people on the earth right now are having problems with insulin and glucose and all that your regulation, it's like one in three at least have pre diabetes. So maybe upwards. Of of 50% so, you know, just looking at hydration in general, it's it's just so important for energy production.

Evan H. Hirsch, MD 10:08

So How Much Water Should people be drinking?

Kelly Halderman DCN, CCN 10:12

So it really depends on your age. It really depends on how active you are. But according to the the Mayo Clinic and the US National Academies of Science, basically the fluid intake, which is, again, this is general, and it doesn't take on like, in In fact, if it doesn't factor in, like, Are you, are you an athlete? Are you sweating? Do you live, like, in a very hot state, and you're always sweating? But in general, for men, it's about three and a half liters of fluid a day of fluid. So they say fluid. So you know, we get a lot of our water, especially structured water, which we can cover a little bit. We get a lot of that water from our food too. So it's not like we have to fill up 3.5 liters of water if you're a man and drink the whole thing and you want to make sure with your electrolyte balances, but that's what they recommend. And then for women, it's about 2.5 a little over 2.5 liters. But really, you know, as we get older, our our kidneys are not as able to concentrate our urine, so you know, we're we're losing, we're losing the water in our urine and and really interesting is that a lot of people, when there's when they're trying to look for signs of dehydration, which is kind of like way down the line, they always say, like, Well, my urine is still straw colored, which, which is great, like you, that's a good sign that you're hydrated, unless you're an older person, because your kidneys can't concentrate the urine, so you can be bone dry, but your urine could still be Straw, straw colored, so gotta be careful with that.

Evan H. Hirsch, MD 11:50

Yeah, and I find that a lot of this is also related to adrenal function, since the adrenal gland produces aldosterone and causes the reabsorption of salt, allows us to hold on to water. If you're stressed. You've got chronic stress from heavy metals, chemicals, molds, infections, mental, emotional, whatever, you're going to have a harder time holding on to your salt. Consequently, you're going to be peeing out more of your salts. You're going to be losing more of your water, and then you get more dehydrated. So let's talk about what kind of water people should drink. You know, I'm a I'm a big fan of distillation, because I see a lot of toxins. For those of you who have not looked at your tap water yet, go to ewg.org/tap, water, and put in your zip code, and you will be amazed at all the toxins that are in there. So I'm kind of on that side because of the work that I do. What do you think is, is the ideal kind of water, structured water? Yeah,

Kelly Halderman DCN, CCN 12:46

so I agree with you. I like distill water. Reverse osmosis has its problems because you're basically taking a dead water and you're sucking everything out of you're filtering everything out of it. Granted, you're filtering out. You could be filtering out your PFAs and your fluoride and other things, the pharmaceuticals, but then you're left with that dead water. So some reverse osmosis systems will you'll have where you can replenish it with minerals. So then again, it's kind of like a dead water that's kind of maybe a little bit more alive. But I do like to pay attention to like you said, you know, knowledge is power, and so if you start to pay attention to the type of water that you're using, that's amazing. So now the next step up. So first step is like, let's not drink water that's contaminated, right? Let's, let's make sure that we are using some sort of filter. And I know Brita filters are very popular, but they're getting sued now because they they over claim. They made people think that they were really filtering their water when they were really it's only a charcoal filter. So I'm not a fan of that. I'm, you know, upgrade that. I also like Dr van. I like find a spring.com Find a spring back Tom, you put in your zip code, and you can find glacial aquifer water, and they're really all over the place. I live in the Twin Cities in Minnesota, and there's an aquifer with beautiful, amazing, not no no pesticides, no PFAs, nothing like two miles down the street. And so I get glass jugs for a buck, and I fill them up. So then, okay, let's talk about the next thing. So you you have to drink water like we have, we have to. I mean, I just talked about energy production and weight loss and detoxification. You know, I, I in a previous life, I wrote a book about phase 2.5 detoxification, and maybe I can come back on and talk about that. But really, you get your toxins out by consuming water because your bile flow is 99% aqueous. That's how you get that's your liver secretes that, and your toxins are in that, and they end up in the toilet, right? So you have to be hydrated for so many reasons, your brain functions better. But then let's level up. This is what I always think. This is what caught my eye about this biotech company about two years ago, when I when I. Decided to become the Chief Health Officer, and doing the clinical trials and running the the research and development is that if we have to drink water anyway, why don't we drink water that's elevated, that has been augmented to give us more health properties, it seems, it seems simple. It's not like, oh, I have to take one more pill. I mean, people get pill fatigue, or I have to do one more thing. It's like we're already doing this, and so we owe technology. I'm just going to show everybody the bottle. So this is the bottle right here, and what it has inside here is a diamond electrode system. So just simply, what it's doing is it's adding energy. It's adding voltage to your water. So adding three electrons, when I click that button for 30 seconds, those an electrolysis process. So an electrical current is run through those diamonds, and it produces over 200 new bio active species in your water, in that water. And so it's a novel water. It's completely different than anything that you drink. And again, it's, you know, the bottle is only $149 and it lasts for four years. It cleans itself. It's, I mean, it's just super simple. But what I'm, you know, really, the message of this podcast is not to don't have to go and buy a wheel bottle, but to think about the energy component to think about healing is Voltage. Voltage is energy. And so we're looking at what's inside that water. You know, it's unfortunate that we can't see. Well, it's unfortunate and fortunate, but we can't look at water and go, Oh, that's contaminated, oh, that's healthy. Oh, you know, that's we just don't have that ability. So the scientists and researchers who work for me, what they're doing is they're teaming up with USF and University of Michigan, and they're doing atomic level spectroscopy, and they're doing Kelvin force microscopy as well, and they're looking at our water, comparing it to tap water, comparing it to just water that has not been through our process, and what they're seeing is huge energy spikes, huge changes in species. And one of those species people may be familiar with is called molecular hydrogen. Molecular hydrogen has a ton of properties. It is an antioxidant. It's a selective antioxidant. So typically, when you're taking antioxidants such as vitamin C and glutathione, vitamin E is that when they get done donating their electrons, they become pro oxidants in your body, and so your body has to take care of those. Then it's like a burden. But with molecular hydrogen, it just donates, and it only selectively takes and quenches and gets rid of the bad free radicals in your body, those rat free radicals being peroxy nitrates and hydroxyl radicals, it doesn't interfere with all the other positive signaling molecules that happen to be free radicals. They have positive effects in the body. So this water is so smart, like it's most intelligent water goes in, takes care of all that inflammation, all of that in your body. And my opinion, I don't know about you, my opinion is that we are walking around very unbalanced when it comes to redox. So redox stands for reduction. Oxidation. It's a balance in our body. We need redox. We need that balance because we need some oxidants to kill cancer cells and to kill viruses in our body, and we need reduction to then again, come in and quench those free radicals. So we're like, we're like this, but I feel like, correct me, if I mark, we're living in a state where all the toxins in our food, our air, our water, etc, are we're we're like, oxidative, heavy. And what that means is we're inflamed. We're inflamed. We're in an inflamed society. And, you know, you just look at the numbers of cardiovascular disease, all the top killers and things, and it's really, there's a lot of inflammation that has, you know, foundationally, just left unchecked, and it just keeps going and going. I think, personally, I think that's covid Long Haul too. I think there's a lot of inflammatory I think there's a big correlation with chronic inflammatory response, syndrome and long haul. And so I think that when you have that smoldering inflammation, you're probably tipped. And you know, traditional tests, we're going to go in the weeds for a second, traditional tests like CRP instead rate, guess what? They can look just fine, because that tip and balance is is so much different. It's an antigen presenting problem. You get stuck in that th one that's way different on paper. So you could go to your doctor and they could say, your CRP is fine, you're not inflamed. It's like, nope, nope, nope, no. I don't agree with that. So again, coming back to the properties water, it's like the molecular hydrogen will activate your nerve two pathways that's called your anti aging pathway, and that pathway activates the production of glutathione, superoxide dismutase, catalase, so you're naturally up regulating your endogenous antioxidants in your body. Molecular hydrogen has been shown to help with. Exercise performance, skin health, aging in of itself. So there's a study that showed that it helped with telomere length. So the some of those, DNA methylation, those are related to aging. You know, everybody wants to grow older and have more birthdays, but nobody wants to, like, get older and have the diseases of chronic of aging, right? And so I think that that that starts with prevention, and it starts with increasing your voltage, so things that you can do to have to gain energy. We started off by talking about that like, that's where I think a lot of people are. That's a huge missing link. That's a huge missing link. And I think it's easier than we think, especially with technology like we it's easier than we think to start up regulating that, that that voltage in our body, and that's, that's a really good clinical strategy, I think, yeah.

Evan H. Hirsch, MD 20:55

And I think that if we're going to be living in today's society, you know, redox is just going to be off. You know, these the frequencies that we're getting from computers and everything you know that we're exposed to is going to negatively affect our own voltage. And so that's why we talk about going out and barefoot walking. But you know, if it's cold, if it's if you don't have access to grass, like, whatever it is, right, it's going to be a lot easier to get voltage in other ways. And it sounds like this is a pretty cool way. So if we go into the biochemistry where we've got H 2o which is water, and then you're injecting electrons, is that how you end up getting the the hydrogen,

Kelly Halderman DCN, CCN 21:37

right? Yep. So basically, electrolysis is splitting apart exactly the the H, 2o so, right. So we're splitting it apart. We're getting dissolved oxygen. We're getting dissolved molecular hydrogen. We're getting many bioactives that, again, we're the global leader in water science. We have, we have, you know, physicists and engineers, all these universities, even over in India, studying, you know, what does this mean for for human health? And what are these different? Because they're they're novel, they're novel. But what we see in this, my job is, is that when people are consuming the water, that's my biggest that's my biggest concern. What's in the black box right now? Well, it's all safe. You know? I mean, it's all those 200 bioactives are very, very safe. So you know, what's going on? What are the what are the end effects? And, you know, many of the people who are consuming our water, we hear over and over again, I have more energy. I have more energy. And it just, it just make, makes sense that we're putting that in, you're consuming it, you know, and in, just like other therapies that are on the market. So

Evan H. Hirsch, MD 22:40

it sounds like you're you're imprinting the water, and you can use whatever kind of water you want. So if I want to use distilled water, I can take the distilled water and I can put it into that and that thing, can you show us again? And how much does that how much does that hold? So

Kelly Halderman DCN, CCN 22:54

this holds about 20 ounces of water, and it's just got a little sea charger. And then you just press the the button, and then it'll start up. There you go, starting to electrolyze. So see all those kind of bubbles in there, and you can pour it in a glass and drink it. You know, you don't have to use this water bottle right here, but yeah, it's Oh, and it's also really cool. It's restructuring your water. So our scientists have found that, I don't know if you've had anyone to talk about structured water, but I mean, it's a huge topic. Looking at the dead water versus structured water is really clinically important. It's important in wildlife and in nature. You'll see in nature, water flows wherever it wants to flow. It just flows in all kinds of different angles. But then when we're looking at what comes out of our tap, it's all these right angles, and it takes the water and it basically unstructures it so it's not its natural form. So what we're doing is you can pour any type of water in here, like you said, and it will restructure it so that I believe it's like eating an apple versus eating like some bio engineered food, Evan element, where your body's like, what do I do with this? What even is this, when the body receives in that structured water, and a lot of this work is from Gerald Pollock, you know, he talks about the fourth phase of water. It's really like you're receiving water that's in that start that structured form, and then your body can, can help it, can do it, could do more things with it. Or it can actually, like, utilize it better than just the water. That's more of a dead water.

Evan H. Hirsch, MD 24:36

I think about the, I think it's Carillion photography, yeah, where you can take pictures of water, and you can actually see the structure and the crystals. And they've done studies of, like, monks praying over water, even if it's like really filthy water. And they can go from from being dead to being more beautiful crystals. Is that kind of what we're talking about? Yeah,

Kelly Halderman DCN, CCN 24:56

that's Dr emotos work. And, um. I'm a big fan, you know, he, he passed away, but there the definitely, when the energy, the energy they were putting in, and whether you believe this or not, the energy they're putting in, via the that Killian photography showed that it was indeed restructuring it, like you said, like they'd have, you know, they'd have prayer over it, or they could say words or label it as hate, and you would just see, it's just a mass of when you looked at the photography, and then the other photography was beautiful and structured and things, and that's really, you know, it that has similarities to what we're talking about here with the process of electrolysis, yeah, and

Evan H. Hirsch, MD 25:41

that's something free that anybody can do right now, is they can say a beautiful blessing over their water and send it lots of love, or think loving thoughts next to your water, and they go, you've, you've kind of restructured it so, so with the wheel the structure, what does the structure look like? Does it look like a crystal? Or do you like we're

Kelly Halderman DCN, CCN 26:01

doing, yeah, so there's actually, there's, it's more of a crystalline structure. And so I, you know, I kind of jump out of my medical wheelhouse with that, and then I have to refer to the electrochemists that we have in the businesses that we have, but they tell me to say that it is a liquid crystalline structure. And beforehand, when we're looking at tap, it has no structure. There's no structure to it.

Evan H. Hirsch, MD 26:30

And so when you drink this, so the water is coming into the body, going through the stomach, being absorbed, and you know, through the intestines, it's does it interact with other water? And does it convert other water into more crystalline structure? Does it share electrons with other water? Like, what was, I guess, what's happening in the body?

Kelly Halderman DCN, CCN 26:54

Yeah, I hear what you're saying, like, the coherence, you know, like with even, like neurofeedback training, we learned that, like, the brain will be in coherence with with what it's coming in. It'll start to be in sync with it. The answer is, is that we're studying that those effects, we're studying those in vitro and vivo, or I'm, you know, here again, to do clinical trials and what is happening on that molecular level, or what is happening in the body when we're consuming it? Is it having that coherent effect on other the fourth phase of water are, you know, is the water in our body then becoming more akin to this. We're studying that, and those are all questions that we have. What I do know is that when you look at the studies to support the water, I see so many benefits that there has to be something going on. There has to be something going on more than just improved hydration, because it has, you know, some bio actives in it. Again, there's just, there's just so much more that we're that we're seeing, and that's where scientists, where we're opening up that, that box and saying, like, what's going on in here? And in several, you know, different ways, again, like in vivo and vitro and all these, you know, USF and University of Michigan, all these really high level spectroscopies and atomic level characterizations of the water.

Evan H. Hirsch, MD 28:12

And so the studies that are being done, are they, are they more laboratory studies, or are they doing clinical studies where they're looking at, okay, 100 people took the water and saw an improvement in their energy.

Kelly Halderman DCN, CCN 28:28

So there's three answers to that. So internally at wIo, we are doing all three. We're doing in in vivo, we're doing ex vivo, so that would be in culture, and we're publishing papers on what we're seeing, because it's so novel. And then we're also doing clinical trials. And then with that, there are clinical trials that have been done, you know, randomized, double blind, the whole, the whole, you know, the the gold standard, have been done using electrolyzed water that is similar to ours, but we, because we use the different electrodes. We use a Diamond Coated electrode, it's a patented electrode, as opposed to a platinum electrode. There's something else going on. So we have that data too, because indeed, if you measure our molecular hydrogen, we have the, you know similar levels. And so you can lean on that data. It's kind of like if you have a product on the market and it has vitamin C 1000 milligrams, and then the literature says that 1000 milligrams does X, Y and Z. You can, you can make those claims. So, you know, we have both, both going on in our studies. Internally, we're also a European company. We have, our roots are in France, and so we have academic partners in clinical trials initiating and exercise performance and skin health over there that will be unique to wheel, because I do think there's two things. Is that electrolysis, you have to be. Really careful, because companies will use electrolysis, but they'll use, again, heavy metal coated electrodes that leech those heavy metals into your water. I'm not going to name names, but it rhymes with Rangan. They have been found. They've you know, people have reported that they've tested their water after some time, and they're, they have found some heavy metal leaching in in the water, because they that's just what happens. You're electrocuting, electrocuting, then the water, and then the electrodes just start to flake off some of the heavy metals. So that's not good. We do now want to be consuming heavy metals in our water. We're that's not, we're not doing any, any anything good for our body with with that. So you just have to be careful. And then I, I personally believe, because I've been with this company for almost two years, using the diamonds to we're using the electrolysis. Something is happening with frequency. Something is happening where we are imprinting a frequency. And I know that might sound crazy to people, but really you can like that this. You can really study frequency, frequency medicine. I believe that Thomas Edison said that the future of medicine will be frequency medicine, you know. And there's a lot of things that we do that is frequency. I think that there's some, so we're studying that as well there. That's a that's another phase of like, why the water is doing what it's doing, what's different about it

Evan H. Hirsch, MD 31:29

as well. And where can people go to look at some of the research?

Kelly Halderman DCN, CCN 31:33

Sure, you can go to W, E, dash, o.com, and so you can go on there. Look at our look at our research, look at what we're doing, and I can answer any questions two people have. I'm on your social media. Should be able to be contacted on the website. But you know, of course, any practitioners out there, you know, I'm speaking at two conferences next month, we have a lot of doctors who are on board, who've seen really great, positive things with adding the water, you know, to protocols for healing. And so, you know, you can right now, our bottle is only $149 which, if you kind of do the math, let's say that you you buy some Aquafina bottles, you know, in the typical like, you know, Aquafina or other waters, can cost you your first of all, you're polluting the Earth. We have a really big problem with plastics and and here's a here's a tip is that really your your bottles are not recycled, only 90% actually 10% of the total that we put in our recycling actually get recycled. They don't. They just don't. So we think, like, oh, recycle this water bottle. Well, there's endocrine disrupting hormones in those plastic water bottles, and you're paying for them. So if it seems like a lot of money, for $149 this is four years worth of you know of a lasting bottle that's glass. It doesn't Leach. You're good for the environment, and so you you really, really pays for itself really, really quickly. But yeah, right now it's really good. And I actually can give Dr Hirsch a, you know, an affiliate link, so you guys can get an extra 10% off if you if you, if you're interested, if you do the research, and it's something that you, you know want to, want to get into, I'd be more than happy to help. Cool,

Evan H. Hirsch, MD 33:27

yeah, we'll put the link below. Thanks for that. I really wish that it came in like a gallon, because how long does it take to 30 minutes? 30 seconds? Oh, 30 seconds. Okay, well, then it's not a big deal.

Kelly Halderman DCN, CCN 33:42

Yeah, it's quick. It's really 30 minutes would be way too long. I

Evan H. Hirsch, MD 33:46

was like, well, then, yeah, I'm gonna, I gotta have it sit there while I'm gonna keep making my water, while I'm waiting for my water to be going, yeah, yeah. Cool. Very, very interesting technology. I'm really fascinated by the voltage aspect and and all of those, would you call them? Bio bioactives, bio actives, including the because a lot of people are talking about hydrogen water right now, and so it sounds like there's more than just hydrogen water happening in there with all those different bio actives. That's right. So interesting. And so, do you have any last question? Well, second to last, maybe. But do you have any research at your fingertips, on, on something, brass tacks, that that would really on any topic, that people could kind of see the efficacy of the of the therapy? I

Kelly Halderman DCN, CCN 34:36

think if you go to our website, you will be you'll be very impressed. I There's research after research study there. It goes into depth on like, what is actually going on. You can see our Kelvin force microscopy. You can see our atomic characterization. You can see it all on there. And you can look and again exercise. There's so many categories that we're that we're really we can show you the data. But, you know, the data speaks for itself, and we're really strong, and we continue to see that like anecdotally, which doesn't mean a lot, but we, you know, hear from our users and things like, you know, this improved my exercise performance, proved I'm sleeping better, etc, etc. And in, in the studies in literature, one of the ones that I love to highlight is that component in in the wheel water, a bio active in the wheel. Water was shown to decrease markers of inflammation in a randomized, double blind placebo controlled trial. So there you go, like, there it is. I mean, it was gold standard. It was just in a standard population. And it also another study I absolutely love, is a study in potential like overweight women, but, you know, they weren't obese. They're just in that overweight category, and it it helped with glucose metabolism and fat mass. And so it's like, I think it's energy production. I really do. I think it's energy production. And we're all trying to really keep our metabolisms going and, you know, keep our bodies really healthy and strong. But those are two of my favorite published literature studies,

Evan H. Hirsch, MD 36:09

excellent. Yeah, such an important topic today. Any last things you want to share with our audience? You already gave your information? Anything? Anything else, though, feel like you need to? Yeah,

Kelly Halderman DCN, CCN 36:20

I think you have a really unique podcast. Dr Hirsch, I really started to dive in, you know, about a month ago when we were both guests on the you hosted the thyroid Summit. So I think that you know what you're doing and how you're doing is absolutely excellent. I think that you're helping a lot of people who absolutely need, they need guidance, and you doing a fantastic job of educating. And I'm just happy to have met you and to Ben a guest on your on your podcast, because I think it is hands on, one of the best around. Oh,

Evan H. Hirsch, MD 36:52

thank you, Kelly. I so appreciate that. Yeah. Well, thanks for coming on today. I really appreciate you sharing your knowledge with our folks, and for everybody who's listening, we'll see you next time. Thanks. I hope you learned something on today's podcast. If you did, please share it with your friends and family and leave us a five star review on iTunes. It's really helpful for getting this information out to more people who desperately need it. Sharing all the experts I know and love and the powerful tips I have is one of my absolute favorite things to do. Thanks for being part of my community. Just a reminder, this podcast is for educational purposes only and is not a substitute for professional care by a doctor or other qualified medical professional it is provided with the understanding that it does not constitute medical or other professional advice or services. Thanks for listening and have an amazing day.